18 March - Death, Near Death & Reincarnation

18 March - Death, Near Death & Reincarnation
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What happens when we die? What can we learn from Near Death Experiences? Can Analytic Idealism explain the many reports of reincarnation from around the world?

Expect one of our deeper and more thought provoking sessions with Bernardo, as we peer beyond the veil to what lies beyond...

Thanks Gustavo and Ines for suggesting this topic during the initial scheduling whiteboard, to Ron, Muriel and Byron for engaging in this topic on Telegram, and the many people contributing to the discussion in the comments below.

Your questions related to this theme are welcome... here is a guide to submitting questions.

Reminder that clocks go forward in the USA 3 weeks before Europe, so the timing for the 11th, 18th & 25th of March will be 2-4pm EST, then will go back to the normal time from April.

The zoom link is below, and here are some examples questions previously submitted:

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE? - Muriel

Okay it's the end of the dissociation process, but is there still something of our individuality that continues as seems to be suggested by near death experiences ? What would be at the base of this individual consciousness as separated from the mind at large when the body is no more ? Does the dissociation really stops or does it only seems to stop to the physical dissociated selves left behind...? In other words, is there something as a individual soul when the body is no more ? Something still individual, not yet merged into the "all there is" ?

DOES RE-INCARNATION FIT INTO ANALYTIC IDEALISM? - Ines

In Buddhism, the idea of Rebirth/Re-incarnation is considered to be right view, however, it is an impersonal process with no entity/soul going from one birth to the next.

How does Analytical Idealism view death and what happens after the dissociating boundaries of an alter dissolve? Is there any kind of "continuity", meaning : would the content of the "dying" alter be the exact content of a new dissociation? Or is there a random mixing of the mind contents in mind at large, hence no continuity?

I would like to think that there are degrees of dissociation/association and that, during the death process, the alter does not dissolve completely in core subjectivity unless it is enlightened. Any comments?

IS A NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE LIKE A 'RECOVERED' WHIRLPOOL THAT HAS DISSIPATED IN A LAKE? - Gustavo

Background of the question is the metaphor of life - individuated - being a whirlpool in a larger lake (M@L). In this context, as Bernardo explains, death would be the 'dissolution' of the whirlpool back into the lake. Such dissolution would entail the lake absorbing the experiences from the whirlpool. Keeping this metaphor, NDEs seem to be the interruption of this 'dissolution' mechanism. In some rare cases, this idea would align with cases of people who come back from coma with skills they didn't have before and didn't have any means of learning them (i.e. playing certain instruments, knowing about events they couldn't have learned before, performing highly in tasks they didn't perform so well before - i.e. calculations). From this, two questions unfold:

1) although hard to explain with concrete cases, is it possible to infer parsimoniously the limits of this 'yank back' in the dissolution process? In other words, when is the whirlpool not 'recoverable' anymore

2) what prevents this view from being anthropomorphised (humans acquiring human related skills)? In other words, what in this context prevents my dog coming back from cardiac arrest during a surgery to acquire human-like skills (or from any other species), since all the 'knowledge' becomes part of the same lake we are all a part of (or humans acquiring non-human skills)?


DOES METACONSCIOUS LIFE CONTRIBUTE MORE TO MIND AT LARGE? - Olivier Goethals

I have the idea that our culture is organised to live as 'unconscious'/not metaconscious as possible.

If you suffer 'the harvesting of life'; the offer to death is richer because it is more lived '(meta-)conscious'. So can we live more consciously without suffering but by accepting? 

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