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# Frontiers of Thought with Michael Levin & Bernardo Kastrup
- URL: https://www.withrealityinmind.com/tues-18th-feb-frontiers-of-thought-discuss-your-idea-with-michael-levin-bernardo-kastrup/
- Published: 2025-02-18T16:11:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-09-14T21:50:40.000Z
- Description: Special event raising money for Compassion in World Farming
- Author: Amir Giles
- Tags: meeting, recording

Recording details 

Date: 18 February 2025

Duration: 2h 27m

Free preview 

Chapters 

0:00:00 Frontiers of Thought: ideas for Michael and Bernardo

0:05:28 Why AI ethics provokes Bernardo’s frustration

0:10:23 Seeing without knowing that we see?

0:15:16 How perception becomes a world of objects

0:20:21 Does the body express the ego’s will to live?

0:25:15 **Blindsight** and the limits of self-report

0:30:21 Giving unconventional ideas a serious hearing

0:35:15 A proposal connecting **entanglement** and shared reality

0:40:14 Entanglement: one system, different perspectives

0:45:03 Celestial patterns as maps rather than causes?

0:50:03 Could **microtubules** illuminate cognition?

0:55:08 Consciousness: necessary or sufficient conditions?

1:00:22 Where is the bridge from quantum collapse to experience?

1:10:17 Could **IIT** connect two pictures of life?

1:20:12 Modelling the brain with wave-like dynamics

1:25:15 Testing a model beyond the brain

1:30:10 Regeneration and the **hologram analogy**

1:35:21 What features of mind could shape evolution?

1:40:07 Intelligence across many kinds of space

1:45:33 Does a feedback mechanism need moral judgement?

1:55:09 What would count as a satisfactory answer?

2:00:33 Could **biophotons** influence genetic mutations?

2:10:11 How do you **fund ideas before their value is clear**?

2:15:21 **Could humanity become one larger organism?**

2:20:20 What might abundance change about human motivation?

We're excited to be hosting this special event, **Tuesday 18th February, 2025: Michael Levin | Bernardo Kastrup "Frontiers of Thought"**

6-9pm UK Time / 7pm - 10pm CET / 1pm to 4pm EST

**Please note this meeting is 3hrs, rather than our normal 2hrs, the first hour will be a Q&A with Bernardo Kastrup. The final 30 minutes will be just with Michael.** 

Michael Levin joins us to host a session inspired by "Shark Tank" (USA) "Dragons Den" (UK) where selected people can present their very best ideas, research and theories related to idealism, consciousness, life, agency and reality itself. 

There won't be any prizes, except a stimulating conversation, reflections and feedback from two great minds. 

The event will raise money for the charity [Compassion in World Farming. ](https://www.ciwf.org.uk/?ref=withrealityinmind.com)

To submit a proposal for discussion, you make donation when [you register](https://dandelion.events/e/c01t4?ref=withrealityinmind.com). All the details can be found here: [https://dandelion.events/e/c01t4](https://dandelion.events/e/c01t4?ref=withrealityinmind.com)

This is also open to non-members. 

You can sponsor someone else's proposal with a donation also. At least 6 ideas with the highest cumulative donation will be discussed 

If you don't already know Michael, he's had what are for me some of the most exciting conversations with Bernardo that I've seen. 

He works at Tufts and is an associate at Harvard. His group works at the intersection of developmental biology, artificial life, bioengineering, synthetic morphology, and cognitive science. Seeking general principles of life-as-it-can-be, they use a wide range of natural animal models and also create novel synthetic and chimeric life forms. 

A playlist of their previous conversations we hosted can be found here: 

## Non-members welcome

Some special guest events will be available to non-members to get tickets, including this one. You can share the link with friends and submit your idea + donation here: [https://dandelion.events/e/c01t4](https://dandelion.events/e/c01t4?ref=withrealityinmind.com) 

Time permitting, members will have the chance to ask questions towards the end. We'll schedule a session for follow up questions with Bernardo in our first session of March. 

Speakers 

![CTA Image](https://storage.ghost.io/c/c5/20/c520bbe6-927b-460d-bf38-d4f48d5dc338/content/images/2026/09/Michael-Levin-profile.webp) 

Michael Levin

***"One of the most creative biologists working today" - Rupert Sheldrake**

***“Perhaps the most important person alive” - Bernardo Kastrup**

Michael Levin is a Distinguished Professor in the Biology department at [Tufts](https://drmichaellevin.org/?ref=withrealityinmind.com), holds the Vannevar Bush endowed Chair, and serves as director of the [Allen Discovery Center at Tufts](https://allencenter.tufts.edu/?ref=withrealityinmind.com). He is also an associate member of the [Wyss Institute at Harvard](https://wyss.harvard.edu/team/associate-faculty/michael-levin-ph-d/?ref=withrealityinmind.com).

His group works at the intersection of developmental biology, artificial life, bioengineering, synthetic morphology, and cognitive science. Seeking general principles of life-as-it-can-be, they use a wide range of natural animal models and also create novel synthetic and chimeric life forms.

Their goal is to develop conceptual frameworks and practical tools that help detect, understand, predict, and communicate with truly diverse intelligences, including cells, tissues, organs, synthetic living constructs, robots, and software-based AIs. His mission is to develop fundamental understanding of how minds of all kinds arise, scale, persist, and change, and to use that knowledge to benefit the embodied experience of sentient beings, through biomedicine and beyond.

Speakers 

![CTA Image](https://storage.ghost.io/c/c5/20/c520bbe6-927b-460d-bf38-d4f48d5dc338/content/images/2026/09/Bernardo-Kastrup-profile.jpg) 

Bernardo Kastrup

Analytic idealism

Bernardo Kastrup is the Executive Director of Essentia Foundation and Founder/CEO at AI systems company Euclyd BV. His work has set off the modern renaissance of metaphysical idealism. He has a Ph.D. in philosophy (ontology, philosophy of mind) and another in computer engineering (reconfigurable computing, artificial intelligence).

As a scientist, he has worked for the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) and the Philips Research Laboratories (where the ‘Casimir Effect’ of Quantum Field Theory was discovered). He has also been creatively active in the high-tech industry for almost 30 years, having founded parallel processor company Silicon Hive (acquired by Intel in 2011) and worked as a technology strategist for the geopolitically significant company ASML. Most recently, he has founded AI company Euclyd BV.

Formulated in detail in many academic papers and books, his ideas have been featured in **Scientific American*, the magazine of **The Institute of Art and Ideas*, the **Blog of the American Philosophical Association* and **Big Think*, among others. His most defining book is **Analytic Idealism in a Nutshell: A straightforward summary of the 21st-century’s only plausible metaphysics.*

[Explore Bernardo’s work →](https://www.bernardokastrup.com/?ref=withrealityinmind.com)