> ## Content Index > Fetch the complete content index at: https://www.withrealityinmind.com/llms.txt > Use this file to discover other available public pages before exploring further. # Dashboards, dials and what lies beyond - URL: https://www.withrealityinmind.com/recording-the-dials-the-dashboard-beyond/ - Published: 2025-10-14T12:16:00.000Z - Updated: 2026-09-20T20:15:55.000Z - Description: What perception veils and reveals - Author: Amir Giles - Tags: recording Recording details Date: 14 October 2025 Duration: 1h 59m Free preview Chapters *courtesy of Rita Conde* 0:00:10 Bernardo’s new vintage computers 0:02:18 Bernardo’s favorite arcade games 0:03:45 New members introduce themselves 0:04:27 “Mind at Large” translation in Dutch 0:07:00 What is agentic AI? 0:10:10 AI replacing jobs and managing resources 0:12:55 **This week’s topic: the Dashboard metaphor** 0:17:12 Evolution is oriented toward survival, not truth 0:18:30 Physical perceptions are Dashboard indications 0:22:15 **What is the airplane in the Dashboard metaphor?** 0:26:10 **Do we need all five senses to develop perception?** 0:30:00 Christopher Reeve and Helen Keller as examples of a full life despite sensory or motor limitations 0:31:31 **The Dashboard and dissociative boundaries** 0:34:27 Bodily perceptions as part of the Dashboard 0:35:10 We identify the “I” with our nervous system 0:36:00 Our body is the sum of multiple interacting mental states 0:38:24 We are like a bus full of people, and the ego is the bus driver 0:40:55 **Are hunger, cold, & pain also Dashboard representations?** 0:42:37 Some mental states are entirely endogenous 0:44:00 Differences between perceptual and endogenous states 0:45:45 Intentional content and qualia states 0:48:32 Aphantasia – the inability to dream perceptual content 0:50:40 How chess players visualize their next moves 0:51:51 Self-triggered emotions and abstract thinking 0:52:42 Bodily perceptions of a patient recovering from a stroke 0:55:37 The Dashboard *is* the perception 0:57:00 The Headless technique 0:58:38 The Dashboard as an immersive interface 0:59:44 **The Dashboard in the absence of perception** 1:02:30 The case of someone born deaf who regains hearing 1:06:20 DMT and the experience of absolute consciousness 1:07:17 **The Dashboard when we stop believing in dualism** 1:09:09 The Dashboard in other organisms 1:13:26 Differences in time perception among different organisms 1:16:00 What can happen in 300 milliseconds 1:17:10 **Do all dissociated alters have Dashboards?** 1:18:45 Recap on the Dashboard metaphor 1:19:19 **Psychedelic experiences outside the Dashboard** 1:29:35 Experiences that bypass the Dashboard 1:34:00 Becoming porous (loosening the dissociative boundaries) 1:35:05 **Structures of Mind at Large** 1:37:27 **Is Mind at Large dynamic or static?** 1:39:24 Mind at Large is outside time 1:41:00 Eternity appears to us disguised as dynamisms 1:41:34 **How Integrated Information Theory maps the noumenal** 1:44:40 Poetic imagination may pick up these subtleties better than any scientific instrument 1:45:45 Dante’s Paradiso: “The Love that moves the sun and the other stars” (L’amor che move il sole e l’altre stelle) 1:46:00 Classical Islamic philosophy of the 7th, 8th, and 9th centuries and later Sufi metaphysics 1:47:50 **How intuition connects to the Dashboard** 1:57:50 Upcoming Essentia Foundation conference in Switzerland 1:58:00 Next session’s topics and guests Do you suspect perception isn't quite what it seems? Most people think that the sun and stars, the rivers and trees are what is 'out there.' Bernardo contends that this is impossible. His dashboard metaphor is meant to emphasise that whilst you're receiving accurate information about the world, your experience is not a direct window *onto* the world. But don't push the metaphor too far! The "dashboard" is simply the colours, sounds and sensations that represent our reality, not some separate artefact you lug around like a laptop. We are fully immersed in it, just like an iPad keyboard is not separate from its display. We also discussed the differences between outer and inner perception, how our body is the sum of multiple interacting mental states, and the many places we could draw a boundary between self and other. All life-forms must have dashboards, and Bernardo speculated on the experiences of bats and of bees, and dramatically different perceptions of time. Some organisms may have sense modalities we cannot imagine, whilst others may have less. Regardless, lacking sight, sound or touch would be no hindrance to a rich and full life. This lent insight into what it might be like to have ***no external perception*** whatsoever. Thinking that takes place without images, words, or any external reference. ### What lies beyond? Psychedelics give us good reason to think that a direct experience of Mind-at-Large is possible, despite its timeless nature. Precognition and remote viewing might be content slipping through, represented in the symbolic language of our dashboard. [Integrated Information Theory](https://www.withrealityinmind.com/recording-iit-a-rosetta-stone-for-mind-at-large/) holds promise to map what is 'out there', but poetic imagination may capture the subtleties better than any scientific method. Dante’s insight into “the love that moves the sun and the other stars,” classical Islamic philosophy and Sufi mystics are top contenders. This is just a taste of the many avenues we explored, and there were so many other great questions in this session that we are going to continue this theme on the [28th of Oct](https://www.withrealityinmind.com/the-dials-the-dashboard-beyond/). You can review the questions and add your own comments on the event page here: [The dials, the dashboard & beyondThe nature of perception and what lies beyond, Q&A with Bernardo on 14th & 28th Oct 2025![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/c5/20/c520bbe6-927b-460d-bf38-d4f48d5dc338/content/images/icon/Heraldry-Icon-transparent-bg-1-48.png)Bernardo Kastrup: With Reality in MindAmir Giles![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/c5/20/c520bbe6-927b-460d-bf38-d4f48d5dc338/content/images/thumbnail/Universum.jpg)](https://www.withrealityinmind.com/the-dials-the-dashboard-beyond/) Enjoy the recording, and I look forward to seeing you at the members' scheduling meetup next week! Until then, Amir Speakers ![CTA Image](https://storage.ghost.io/c/c5/20/c520bbe6-927b-460d-bf38-d4f48d5dc338/content/images/2026/09/Bernardo-Kastrup-profile.jpg) Bernardo Kastrup Analytic idealism Bernardo Kastrup is the Executive Director of Essentia Foundation and Founder/CEO at AI systems company Euclyd BV. His work has set off the modern renaissance of metaphysical idealism. He has a Ph.D. in philosophy (ontology, philosophy of mind) and another in computer engineering (reconfigurable computing, artificial intelligence). As a scientist, he has worked for the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) and the Philips Research Laboratories (where the ‘Casimir Effect’ of Quantum Field Theory was discovered). He has also been creatively active in the high-tech industry for almost 30 years, having founded parallel processor company Silicon Hive (acquired by Intel in 2011) and worked as a technology strategist for the geopolitically significant company ASML. Most recently, he has founded AI company Euclyd BV. Formulated in detail in many academic papers and books, his ideas have been featured in *Scientific American*, the magazine of *The Institute of Art and Ideas*, the *Blog of the American Philosophical Association* and *Big Think*, among others. His most defining book is *Analytic Idealism in a Nutshell: A straightforward summary of the 21st-century’s only plausible metaphysics.* [Explore Bernardo’s work →](https://www.bernardokastrup.com/?ref=withrealityinmind.com)