Recording: Robots will be tools, not tyrants

The future of AI depends on us: Bernardo Kastrup on Agentic AI, 8th July 2025

Recording: Robots will be tools, not tyrants

In this session, Bernardo clarified his ambition for the Agentic AI hardware company he founded. His primary motivation is philosophical: By being directly involved in building the hardware that powers AI systems, he and his collaborators aim to have credible standing in debates about the nature of mind and consciousness. The second motivation is technological sovereignty for Europe, as the US and China now dominate AI infrastructure.

We also covered the difference between intelligence, consciousness and creativity, and why AI will have the first in abundance but not the later two. It will do a very convincing simulation however!

This will create challenges, but robots taking over won't be one of them. Far more important is whether humans develop the wisdom to wield ever increasing power.

Other points covered in the session included:

  • We know how AI works... yet we don't know how it works
  • AI progress isn't limited by our understanding
  • AI as a tool, and our future depends on how we use it
  • Future scenarios: human extinction vs human thriving
  • Robots wont take control: Why Hollywood depictions are unrealistic
  • Augmented humans are inevitable
  • Personal growth as preparation for an uncertain future

To play us out, here are Flight of the Conchords with their prematurely prescient vision for our future.

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