On Conception, Birth, DNA & Death

In the womb, the nervous systems of mother and child are dynamically coupled. DNA seems to take inanimate matter and reconfigure it into life. Genetic mutations are interpreted as dysfunction in one context, and the origin of an awakening consciousness in another.

How would Bernardo interpret these observations in light of Analytic Idealism?

On the 11st of Nov we discussed the body and its boundaries - connecting our understanding of dissociative alters with their dashboard representations. Both topics we have explored extensively in previous weeks.

Several questions on conception, birth and DNA went unanswered, so we have saved these for a session dedicated to the topic; 9th of Dec, 6-8pm UK time / 7-9pm CET / 1-3pm EST

The initial selected questions are below. If there is time, we'll take further questions from the live chat during the meeting, as well as leave some time to prepare for James Hollis next week.

I look forward to seeing you there!

Amir

THE BODY AND BOUNDARIES IN PREGNANCY - Rachel Clemesha

There are maternal–fetal exchange (cells, hormones, etc.) The two nervous systems are dynamically coupled.

How should we interpret this connection of two alters ?

Does the newborn experience a continuity of consciousness across delivery , or does the boundary’s relocation entail a brief subject-level discontinuity?

HOW DOES THE FUNCTIONING OF DNA, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TO CONCEPTION, FIT WITHIN ANALYTICAL IDEALISM - Stan Beremski

It seems that at a certain point in the process of life what can be said to be inanimate is somehow reconfigured to be animate and living. In other words a new dissociative boundary is created.

What role does DNA play in all of this and how is the transition from inanimate to animate handled in specific terms by the theory?

WHAT CONNECTION DO YOU ESTABLISH BETWEEN CONSCIOUSNESS AND GENETIC MUTATIONS (in utero and not in utero)? Zara Sumodhee

In some belief systems, the occurrence of genetic mutations that cause diseases serves to make the family and/or society aware of certain dysfunctions (certainly dissociative ones). This aligns with Penrose's theory, in which the collapse of the wave function is the origin of consciousness. However, according to Wigner's theory, it is consciousness that is the origin of the collapse of the wave function. In other words, one could hypothesize that overly dissociative states of consciousness led to the genetic mutation.

The two theories would not contradict each other but would suggest that it is a cycle aimed at safeguarding the information most useful for the survival of a family and a society from a global perspective, thus connecting with Integrated Information Theory (IIT).

However, the occurrence of a genetic mutation can sometimes be the origin of an awakening of consciousness, and sometimes a collapse. This depends on the intensity of the observer's consciousness.

What do you think of this and the notion of the intensity of consciousness? Do you think that states of superposition of consciousness can exist? Particularly when a person who sees this kind of situation as an opportunity to grow manages to impose their mindset on another person who sees the situation as a collapse when they are together.

WHAT CAN WE INFER ABOUT AGING AND DISEASE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THE BODY IS WHAT DISSOCIATION LOOKS LIKE? - Deborah Chen

I’m wondering if aging is a crumbling of the dissociative boundary, progressing toward death, when the boundary dissolves.

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